On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 scoop-dev-request at lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:42:38 -0800
> From: Jonathan Walther <krooger at debian.org>
> To: scoop-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Scoop-dev] current status of PostgreSQL port of scoop?
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> I saw the wondrous announcement on scoop.kuro5hin.org but haven't seen
> any updates since then.  I posted a comment to the article by Denshi a
> couple weeks ago, and got no reply.  I haven't been able to access the
> server to download the source.

Strangely enough I didn't get a warning email about your comment.  Do you
have a link?

> Has anyone got their hands on the source?  I like Kuro5hin a lot more
> now without the mojo; a lot of the popularity contest element seems to
> have gone, and with it the blow-hards who spent their time striving for
> vain things.  Those who are left are more egoless, more committed to the
> discussions for their own sake.

I'll send you the patches this evening.

> Will there be a Postgres version of scoop soon that is updated to the
> new mojo-less version?

mojo-less?  I haven't touched scoop in a couple years, could you bring me
up to speed?

Hulver said:
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> Hopefully it won't just be Postgres specific, but suitable for other
> DB's as well, like Interbase.

I'll check.  I like the system OpenACS picked up off of Common Lisp's
generic functions: there are queries of decreasing specifity to the target
data (or DB) with a totally generic query as the safety.  I think Keith,
below, has written something to that effect.

> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 21:37:05 -0500
> From: Keith Smiley <panner at perlmonkey.net>
> To: scoop-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Scoop-dev] current status of PostgreSQL port of scoop?
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> The announcement on scoop.k5 is over two years old, if you'll notice, and I
> haven't heard anything about it since then. I think denshi sent me a couple
> preliminary patches which I wanted some changes in, then I didn't hear anyt=
> hing
> else. In any case, I don't think he's going to be updating it to CVS. Also,
> Scoop isn't "mojo-less" now, k5 just turned it off. Other sites can still u=
> se
> it if they'd like.

IIRC, you were around but the other maintainers were on vacation or
studying or something otherwise time consuming.  It was a weekend hack and
I didn't have the time for it otherwise.

> Back on database abstraction, I picked it up a few months ago and got a
> good deal of it done over a weekend, but didn't check it in at the time
> because I didn't think it was far enough along. It was really at the
> point that datab= ase statements just had to be re-written, though, so
> it still worked on mysql a= nd mostly worked on postgres. Once its done,
> it should be fairly simple to port the code to other databases, and
> there will be a mechanism for boxes to use=
>  the abstraction in their queries. After the 1.0 release, I'll bring
> what I had = up to the current version and checkin what I have to
> CURRENT. I might also wri= te something up about how it works to make
> sure people don't see any major problems with it.
>

Sounds good.